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Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 120	Posted - 2012.03.26 21:40:00 - [1] - Quote Look at this thread full of people so utterly disrespectful and ridiculous towards the "victim" by insinuating he literally is incapable of making a decision on his own and totally would never, ever commit suicide on his own but now that people might make fun of him in a video game, he just might actually do it! No way could he have made that decision on his own though. It's funny, because in your unbelievably transparent attempt to remove mittens (and his stupidly large voting mandate) from the CSM, you're actually being about a thousand times more insulting than we ever could have been. If you cared so much about his mental state, maybe you wouldn't make him a pawn in your stupid political game? Nah, way too much to ask from a bunch of mouthbreathing publords. Remember ~~The Maine!Smoske~~ The Wis!
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 122	Posted - 2012.03.26 22:28:00 - [2] - Quote Twulf wrote: How can you be this stupid? Seriously its an honest question. God how can you be this dumb? How on earth do you not hurt yourself while typing? Oh cool the "how can you be this dumb?" game! I've got next: Congress isn't going to act unless there's something in it for them - either money or goodwill from their voterbase. Goodwill from their voterbase would require the public to (a) know about this and to (b) give a **** about it. For this to happen, some major news source would have to pick up the story and run with it, which means they'd have to call it cyber-bullying and interview The Wis about it. Not only does The Wis seem pretty much not-too-bothered about the whole thing, he's also an adult. Cyber-bullying is a hot topic because it falls under the "think of the children" banner, which is pretty much incompatible with an adult, especially one who doesn't seem bothered by what transpired (not anymore, anyway). I guess the TL;DR is "how can you be this dumb? How on earth do you not hurt yourself while typing?"
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 123	Posted - 2012.03.27 00:27:00 - [3] - Quote Amity Lane wrote: It is interesting how quickly Mittani's support in this thread has gone from "he did nothing wrong, suck it up losers" to "here's his sincere apology, please take it at face value". Not expressing support of one side of the other. Just pointing out how fickle it appears is all. That's the sort of thing that happens when the subject of all this scorn is halfway over the Atlantic. It's not so much fickle as it is acknowledging that his opinion on what he did is a hell of a lot more important than our opinion about what he did. Personally, I don't even think he has anything to apologize for, but that's me. He clearly feels an apology was necessary, so he did. If anything, it should put all of this stupid "THIS IS ALL PLANNED GOON CTA DAMAGE CONTROL RABLLERABLLERABBLE" nonsense to bed, since so many of us were absolutely not on the same page as he was about it.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 130	Posted - 2012.03.27 03:56:00 - [4] - Quote TruthState wrote: The op raised very valid concerns and arguments. If you want to be a public representative of the Eve player base, a normal standard of behaviour is expected, instead of the juvenille nature that was shown. I support the op 100%, we expect better from the top echelon thats supposed to represent this community. Would this be the same standard of behavior that has a thread full of people turning someone who is supposedly mentally unstable into their own personal property just so they can take someone they don't like in an internet spaceship game down a peg or two?
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 131	Posted - 2012.03.27 04:07:00 - [5] - Quote Jessie-A Tassik wrote: You seem concerned that some people may think they are better than you. Maybe they think they are better than you because they are? Well, considering the only argument against Mittens that is actually his doing* is a moral one, it's worth noting that the bulk of his accusers are actually outdoing him in that department while trying to pretend like they're above him somehow. I'm not surprised in the least, mind you, just pointing it out for the sake of myself and anyone else that isn't too frothed up to see the irony. * anything about this being bad publicity for CCP is entirely CCP's fault, as they not only vetted his presentation, but allowed him to present and even participate in Q&A after the fact despite it being obvious he was very clearly drunk out of his skull TruthState wrote: This is not about personal bias, this is all about what was said. And thats the difference. Right, that's why it took so long for anyone to ask what The Wis thought of any of this (a.k.a. the "victim"), and then continue to ignore it when it didn't support the narrative. This is 100% because it's The Mittani that said it, and if you think otherwise, then you're delusional as hell.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 132	Posted - 2012.03.27 04:34:00 - [6] - Quote Candente wrote: I'm pretty sure "the bulk of his accusers" don't get elected to CSM just to generate bad PR for CSM, CCP, this game, and the general player base of this game. His apology is rather shallow, and quite frankly, the best apology for this starting shitstorm is to resign and possibly appoint a successor that is less inclined to start similar shitstorm during fanfest. He didn't generate bad publicity for CCP, CCP did. They put a livestreaming camera in front of a drunk guy and let it linger for a good, long while. They don't get to act all shocked and awed then the drunk guy says something problematic, as drunk people tend to do that. CCP actually vetting his presentation (i.e. having no issue with him even beinging The Wis and the original email up in the first place) is just icing on that cake.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 133	Posted - 2012.03.27 04:39:00 - [7] - Quote GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote: the issue wasnt with the email he read out that was in the presentation, it was his comments in the Q & A section m8... CCP cant vet that unless theyve a f**king time machine, and try as he might, i dont think veritas has that kind of coding genius in him. Admittedly, the slide/email was sort of a secondary thing, but it was pretty clear that CCP didn't mind him "going there" so to speak. That's just pretty stupid to do if you're livestreaming this to at minimum a playerbase full of people who have any number of reasons to dislike Mittens already. Letting him present anyway when he was as drunk as he was is doubly stupid.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 133	Posted - 2012.03.27 04:45:00 - [8] - Quote Shandir wrote: I think so far in my life I have never laughed and told someone to go kill themselves. Much less told "six thousand of my closest friends" to also go tell someone to go kill themselves. If this had been a person who was genuinely unhappy, to whom EVE is important (much like it is to The Mittani), then this level of planned methodical abuse could easily be devastating. Do you really deny that in slightly different circumstances, his actions could have caused serious harm to another player? That his actions were with little regard to what damage they might cause? A ton of media exposure (particularly interviews wanting to know if you really are considering suicide over a video game - a double dose of humiliation, unfortunately) would have been far worse than anything that would have happened to him in-game.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 139	Posted - 2012.03.27 07:04:00 - [9] - Quote de4deye wrote: The most simple way to solve this whole issue - Resign. I like this because it solves literally nothing.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 147	Posted - 2012.03.27 08:29:00 - [10] - Quote "Scamming and griefing is fine so long as it's not the criteria we're trying to use to get The Mittani banned, but if it fits the criteria we're using to get The Mittani banned, then THE MITTANI NEEDS TO BE BANNED!"

Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 169	Posted - 2012.03.27 20:12:00 - [11] - Quote Xython wrote: He wasn't making a death threat. Go yourself. Hey, stop making...sex threats?
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 170	Posted - 2012.03.27 20:46:00 - [12] - Quote Karim alRashid wrote: de4deye wrote: Mittani has to go, there is no other way. Or else ? Or else all of NCdot's titan pilots who have apparently already unsubbed will unsub all over again!
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 173	Posted - 2012.03.27 22:00:00 - [13] - Quote Jessie-A Tassik wrote: I imagine Mittens called them off when he because scared about losing his CSM position. But why don't you, like a good Goonie, lie about how you wouldn't have harassed him.......... Lie about why your aren't now. You know, cause it would be bad for Mittens. Please, by all means, continue the shameless lies. The presentation and his BIG BAD THREAT was on Friday, and none of this really blew up until Sunday/Monday. That's 2 or 3 days of solid harassment this ARMY OF GOONIES!!! would have gotten in before he came to his senses. Yet, when he (The Wis) was contacted about this on Monday afternoon, he had no idea that anything had even happened. That must have been some serious harassment! Of course, it's that or Mittens made a godawful joke that nobody listening took seriously until some publord who fell asleep halfway through reading a Cliff's Notes of The Prince decided to use this to get Mittens removed from either the CSM or from the game entirely. That's just silly though because GOONIES
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 173	Posted - 2012.03.27 22:03:00 - [14] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Sorry was my poor attempt to be funny making a play on the word 'miner/minor' At least I tried. I chuckled, if it was any consolation
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 181	Posted - 2012.03.27 22:53:00 - [15] - Quote RougeOperator wrote: He didnt do it until the end of fanfest you noob. How are we supposed to react before he sends harassment horde after a guy to kill him. Are you from the future? The alliance presentation (where he said DOSE MEAN THINGS!!!) was on Friday Election results Saturday Dramabomb about this all Sunday/Monday DERP DERP DERP I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M ACTUALLY USPET ABOUT ANYMORE MITTANI MUST GO
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 183	Posted - 2012.03.27 23:22:00 - [16] - Quote Jessie-A Tassik wrote: Actually The Wiz reported that Goonies had set up in his system. Wis is an ICE MINER, the real miracle is that goons weren't already set up in his system.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 183	Posted - 2012.03.27 23:34:00 - [17] - Quote Cipher Jones wrote: [If you consider what mittens did "winning" you are losing at life. "won" refers to him winning the CSM chair by a landslide, which coincidentally (lol) is the main thing separating his idiotic joke and the days-late faux outrage.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 183	Posted - 2012.03.27 23:50:00 - [18] - Quote Cipher Jones wrote: Who was that guy that was voted Time magazine "Man of the Year" in 1938 again? You really could have just Godwin'd yourself early on and saved yourself the trouble. Why wait this long?
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 208	Posted - 2012.03.28 04:42:00 - [19] - Quote Flamespar wrote: I don't know why people are making the excuse that he was drunk He did go to the trouble of making a powerpoint presentation that included his conversation with this player, before the alliance panel. I presume he was sober when he did that. Nobody is upset because of him mentioning that guy's email at all, they're upset about him blabbing the guy's name in the Q&A afterwards, which is where the "he was drunk" part comes into play. If it was actually his intent to share the guy's name, it would have been part of the presentation.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 209	Posted - 2012.03.28 04:52:00 - [20] - Quote RougeOperator wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvo08_uYjHI 1:12:00 seems maybe a bit more then half serious about calling for them to harass someone to a real life death. even worse if you watch the presentation and then the Q&A back to back You can link that all you want, I've seen it. Did you just see it now or something, because you're spamming it more than usual. Wouldn't be surprised if you did, it'd at least explain how you didn't even seem to know when any of these events actually happened a few hours ago.

Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 211	Posted - 2012.03.28 05:09:00 - [21] - Quote RougeOperator wrote: I saw the original Stream. The you tube ones cut the part that was relevant. I finally found a full uncut HD copy Not hard to figure out. Oh, you saw the original stream. Does that mean you were lying when you tried to pretend like there wasn't a several day gap between the alliance panel comments and the forum outrage, or are you just stupendously bad at math?
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 216	Posted - 2012.03.28 06:42:00 - [22] - Quote I've had a change of mind. If Fanfest would have been a bar and Mittens would have told someone at the bar to go kill themselves, Patrick Swayze would have kicked his ass. Patrick Swayze, rest his soul, would not have abided by this. Why should we? Mittens out, Roadhouse in
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 216	Posted - 2012.03.28 07:25:00 - [23] - Quote Zleon Leigh wrote: I think its about time for CCP to stand up and make a statement. Anyone else? Definitely! I've been waiting for like 20 minutes for them to tell us if we'll ever be able to watch Roadhouse in our CQ's! That's 18 or so minutes too long, unaccetable! emails Eurogamer
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 227	Posted - 2012.03.28 08:33:00 - [24] - Quote Frying Doom wrote: KanashiiKami wrote: it is not a tragedy that the thread is going on and on ... it IS a tragedy that some people are sweeping it under the worm hole and classifying it as a joke or something to that level. Should anyone support what he did. NO he is not supporting it himself. Should he resign. YES just like he said he would. Should CCP issue a statement condemning the whole thing. YES or they will keep getting bad press only it will get worse. Should the rest of the CSM issue a statement. YES anything would be better than running away for days. Should anyone care what this psycho sexist campaign-sabotaging publord says NO Should people just chill and watch Roadhouse instead YES
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 228	Posted - 2012.03.28 08:47:00 - [25] - Quote JC Anderson wrote: Eh.... True? Or no? Its an update to their last article. Old-ish info. He posted on his twitter that he would resign, but he posted that the moment he landed in the USA (the drama blew up while he was flying home). Two Step (next in line for CSM) asked him to think about it before making anything official ( https://twitter.com/two_step_eve/status/184449371847393280 ). Now the CSM is talking about it interally ( https://twitter.com/Seleene_EVE/status/184698227952582656 ). Frying Doom wrote: I love the alteration to the language. The Mittani says he will resign, this says resign his senior position, what the hell does that mean? It's Kotaku using non-Eve language since nobody outside of Eve players would have the slighest clue what the CSM is or what it even stands for.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 232	Posted - 2012.03.28 11:16:00 - [26] - Quote Prince Kobol wrote: 92:46:27 AM) directorbot: Gentlegoons, While I have the spaceship council work on their pleas for my resignation pledge retraction I need my "lolapology thread" locked or otherwise removed from front page. Till further notice spam Roadhouse references until publord scum rage out and burn the thread. * This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored * enough said Sorry but we started our Roadhouse love-in WAY before 92:46 AM. Check the timestamps of our first post, it was like 89:14AM at the absolute latest

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